Comments on: The Fairness Doctrine - Infringement of Free Speech? http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech A forerunner to the future... Why we need to become energy independent. Tue, 06 Jan 2009 21:01:06 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Prodromus http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-69 Prodromus Thu, 21 Aug 2008 14:29:36 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-69 I did not make that argument however :) Thanks for your thoughts on alternative parties, I will respond to your questions in a future blog post, hopefully next week. And, I too appreciate the discussion, thanks for your participation. I did not make that argument however :)

Thanks for your thoughts on alternative parties, I will respond to your questions in a future blog post, hopefully next week.

And, I too appreciate the discussion, thanks for your participation.

]]> By: aldon @ orient lodge http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-64 aldon @ orient lodge Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:07:44 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-64 P.S. I would like to thank you for engaging in an interesting and serious discussion about the issues. It has been very enjoyable. aldon @ orient lodges last blog post..<a href="http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3136" rel="nofollow">Social Media Map – What does it mean?</a> P.S. I would like to thank you for engaging in an interesting and serious discussion about the issues. It has been very enjoyable.

aldon @ orient lodges last blog post..Social Media Map – What does it mean?

]]> By: aldon @ orient lodge http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-63 aldon @ orient lodge Tue, 19 Aug 2008 18:04:48 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-63 ... and the problem with your argument is that it could be used to justify all kinds of inaction to make things better. There is a problem, but trying to fix the problem might make things worse, so let's not try to fix it. As to 3rd and 4th party, I would love to see your post on that. To what extent do you believe that other forms of elections, such as instant run off voting, Proportional voting, and other voting systems would improve the system? To what extent would changing voting registration so people could register with multiple parties improve the system? To what extent do you think fusion voting would improve the situation? I don't want to fall into the fallacy that we should have even more regulation of the voting system, or that it is broken, but any fixes might make it worse. The problem I see is that any changes to enable 3rd or 4th parties would most likely have to be approved by people elected in a two party system who have a vested interest in keeping the two party system intact. aldon @ orient lodges last blog post..<a href="http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3136" rel="nofollow">Social Media Map – What does it mean?</a> … and the problem with your argument is that it could be used to justify all kinds of inaction to make things better. There is a problem, but trying to fix the problem might make things worse, so let’s not try to fix it.

As to 3rd and 4th party, I would love to see your post on that. To what extent do you believe that other forms of elections, such as instant run off voting, Proportional voting, and other voting systems would improve the system?

To what extent would changing voting registration so people could register with multiple parties improve the system?

To what extent do you think fusion voting would improve the situation?

I don’t want to fall into the fallacy that we should have even more regulation of the voting system, or that it is broken, but any fixes might make it worse.

The problem I see is that any changes to enable 3rd or 4th parties would most likely have to be approved by people elected in a two party system who have a vested interest in keeping the two party system intact.

aldon @ orient lodges last blog post..Social Media Map – What does it mean?

]]> By: Prodromus http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-61 Prodromus Tue, 19 Aug 2008 16:19:45 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-61 The problem with that argument is that you could use it to justify all the over-regulation by the government. They are already doing it, so why not some more. I would prefer that we look at the consequences of any actions, and heaven-forbid, if it treads on our constitutional rights. But, I totally agree that we are becoming a more divided nation. My personal belief is that a lot of that is due to the two-party system we currently have. We need a strong 3rd or 4th party to really spark new ideas and force our government into action. Hmm, that might be a good topic for a blog post. :) The problem with that argument is that you could use it to justify all the over-regulation by the government. They are already doing it, so why not some more. I would prefer that we look at the consequences of any actions, and heaven-forbid, if it treads on our constitutional rights.

But, I totally agree that we are becoming a more divided nation. My personal belief is that a lot of that is due to the two-party system we currently have. We need a strong 3rd or 4th party to really spark new ideas and force our government into action. Hmm, that might be a good topic for a blog post. :)

]]> By: aldon @ orient lodge http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-60 aldon @ orient lodge Mon, 18 Aug 2008 17:35:58 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-60 Prodromus - If the government were not already in the middle of who gets to be on the public airwaves, I would probably agree with you. However, as it stands, the government is already there. You need to get a license to run a radio or television station from the government. Most cable networks are currently regulated by state departments of public utilities. I am not sure that the FCC or the DPUCs are doing a good job of making sure that the public airwaves, as well as cable right of ways are currently being used as much as they should be in the public interest. As to the concern about the need for strong bipartisan agreement, I tend to agree with you on that. There is way too much us-them thinking in U.S. politics currently, in my humble opinion. One of the problems of the current media policies is that it seems to increase, instead of decrease the us-them partisan politics and inhibits the ability of all Americans to work together for the common good of our country. aldon @ orient lodges last blog post..<a href="http://www.orient-lodge.com/node/3135" rel="nofollow">Social Media Map</a> Prodromus - If the government were not already in the middle of who gets to be on the public airwaves, I would probably agree with you. However, as it stands, the government is already there. You need to get a license to run a radio or television station from the government. Most cable networks are currently regulated by state departments of public utilities. I am not sure that the FCC or the DPUCs are doing a good job of making sure that the public airwaves, as well as cable right of ways are currently being used as much as they should be in the public interest.

As to the concern about the need for strong bipartisan agreement, I tend to agree with you on that. There is way too much us-them thinking in U.S. politics currently, in my humble opinion.

One of the problems of the current media policies is that it seems to increase, instead of decrease the us-them partisan politics and inhibits the ability of all Americans to work together for the common good of our country.

aldon @ orient lodges last blog post..Social Media Map

]]> By: Prodromus http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-59 Prodromus Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:27:48 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-59 Tiffany - Thanks for visiting, please stop by again. Bobo - Great minds indeed! Hawg - Spoken like a true red-blooded American. Love it or leave it! Viveca - Ah, that hits home for me. While we spend endless time arguing the little stuff, major issues like Energy Independence are ignored, or worse, stifled by pandering politicians like Nancy Pelosi. Tiffany - Thanks for visiting, please stop by again.

Bobo - Great minds indeed!

Hawg - Spoken like a true red-blooded American. Love it or leave it!

Viveca - Ah, that hits home for me. While we spend endless time arguing the little stuff, major issues like Energy Independence are ignored, or worse, stifled by pandering politicians like Nancy Pelosi.

]]> By: Prodromus http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-58 Prodromus Mon, 18 Aug 2008 13:24:24 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-58 Aldon, you said "democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others". I think you could use that same logic when explaining free markets, and free speech. Having the government get in the middle of who or what we can hear on the public air waves will only make the situation worse, not better. If there was strong bipartisan agreement, I might feel differently, but overwhelmingly this is being pushed by the liberal media and politicians who feel frustrated that conservative listeners now have a place to hear their views, and that they no longer control. Aldon, you said “democracy is the worst form of government, except for all the others”. I think you could use that same logic when explaining free markets, and free speech.

Having the government get in the middle of who or what we can hear on the public air waves will only make the situation worse, not better.

If there was strong bipartisan agreement, I might feel differently, but overwhelmingly this is being pushed by the liberal media and politicians who feel frustrated that conservative listeners now have a place to hear their views, and that they no longer control.

]]> By: viveca http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-57 viveca Sun, 17 Aug 2008 02:49:24 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-57 It is absolutely an infringement on free speech. AND the time that's been spent trying to control our communications and dictate our speech should be spent on solving our energy crises. It is absolutely an infringement on free speech.
AND the time that’s been spent trying to control our communications and dictate our speech should be spent on solving our energy crises.

]]> By: The Hawg http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-56 The Hawg Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:12:06 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-56 The Fairness Doctrine is nonsense and, as you have pointed out, it is anything but fair and equitable. Interestingly enough, the mainstream media can sit back and fawn over Obama and no one says "boo" about it. But those mean old talk radio folks spouting a conservative agenda? Heaven forbid! The point, of course, is that the fairness doctrine has never been applied equally and it never will be. It's best to let the First Amendment do what it was designed to do -- protect free speech from government regulation. The Hawgs last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheNaturalStateHawg-RamblingsFromAnArkie/~3/366288731/show-some-respect.html" rel="nofollow">Show some respect</a> The Fairness Doctrine is nonsense and, as you have pointed out, it is anything but fair and equitable. Interestingly enough, the mainstream media can sit back and fawn over Obama and no one says “boo” about it.

But those mean old talk radio folks spouting a conservative agenda? Heaven forbid!

The point, of course, is that the fairness doctrine has never been applied equally and it never will be. It’s best to let the First Amendment do what it was designed to do — protect free speech from government regulation.

The Hawgs last blog post..Show some respect

]]> By: The BoBo http://www.prodromus.com/2008/08/15/the-fairness-doctrine-infringement-of-free-speech/comment-page-1#comment-55 The BoBo Sun, 17 Aug 2008 01:07:36 +0000 http://www.prodromus.com/?p=79#comment-55 Absolutely it is! If you look at the Rassmussen poll - it also indicates that 31% think the FD should also be applied to the Internet that would effectively shut down all the bloggers as well. My understanding is Congress is also trying to tie the Internet in to this new FD package as well. BTW - I posted up on this same subject last night over at another blog that I am an author on. Great minds think alike! The BoBos last blog post..<a href="http://feeds.feedburner.com/~r/TheBoboFiles/~3/366933261/" rel="nofollow">“What is the difference between liberals and conservatives?”</a> Absolutely it is! If you look at the Rassmussen poll - it also indicates that 31% think the FD should also be applied to the Internet that would effectively shut down all the bloggers as well. My understanding is Congress is also trying to tie the Internet in to this new FD package as well.

BTW - I posted up on this same subject last night over at another blog that I am an author on. Great minds think alike!

The BoBos last blog post..“What is the difference between liberals and conservatives?”

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